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Grosser Preis der Schweiz

Bremgarten, 4 Jun 1950

ResultsLapsTime/Speed
1 Giuseppe Farina Alfa Romeo 158 - s/c 8
#16 Alfa Romeo SpA
42 2h 02' 53.7
2 Luigi Fagioli Alfa Romeo 158 - s/c 8
#12 Alfa Romeo SpA
42 2h 02' 54.1
3 Louis Rosier Talbot T26C-DA [110 051] 6
#10 Automobiles Talbot-Darracq (see note 1)
41 2h 05' 17.9
4 "B Bira" Maserati 4CLT-48 [1607] - s/c 4
#30 Enrico Platé (see note 2)
40 2h 04' 37.1
5 Felice Bonetto Maserati 4CLT-48 [1611] - Speluzzi s/c 4
#34 Scuderia Milan (see note 3)
40 2h 05' 18.1
6 Emmanuel de Graffenried Maserati 4CLT-48 [1601] - s/c 4
#32 Enrico Platé (see note 4)
40 2h 05' 45.3
7 Nello Pagani Maserati 4CLT-48 - s/c 4
#2 Scuderia Achille Varzi (see note 5)
39 2h 04' 28.8
8 Harry Schell Talbot T26C [110 001] 6
#44 Écurie Rosier (see note 6)
39 2h 05' 01.6
9 Louis Chiron Maserati 4CLT-48 [1606] - s/c 4
#26 Officine Alfieri Maserati (see note 7)
39 2h 05' 16.9
10 Johnny Claes Talbot T26C [110 011] 6
#4 Écurie Belge (see note 8)
39 2h 05' 20.4
11 Toni Branca Maserati 4CL [1582] - s/c 4
#40 A Branca (see note 9)
35 2h 05' 02.5
R Juan Manuel Fangio Alfa Romeo 158 - s/c 8
#14 Alfa Romeo SpA
32 Engine
R Philippe Étancelin Talbot T26C [110 008] 6
#42 P Étancelin (see note 10)
25 Gearbox
R Eugène Martin Talbot T26C-DA [110 053] 6
#8 Automobiles Talbot-Darracq (see note 11)
19 Accident
R Raymond Sommer (F2) 2-litre Ferrari 166 F2 [GP1-49] - V12
#20 Scuderia Ferrari
19 Suspension
R Luigi Villoresi Ferrari 125 - s/c V12
#22 Scuderia Ferrari (see note 12)
9 Engine
R Alberto Ascari Ferrari 125 - s/c V12
#18 Scuderia Ferrari (see note 13)
4 Oil pump
R Yves Giraud-Cabantous Talbot T26C-DA [110 052] 6
#6 Automobiles Talbot-Darracq (see note 14)
0 Accident
T Louis Rosier Talbot T26C [110 001] 6
#101 Écurie Rosier (see note 15)
(Only used in practice)
DNP José Froilán Gonzalez Maserati 4CLT-48 [1600] - s/c 4
#2 Scuderia Achille Varzi (see note 16)
Did not take part in official practice
(Alternate driver)
DNA Peter Whitehead Ferrari 125 [10C] - s/c V12
#24 P N Whitehead (see note 17)
Did not arrive
DNA Franco Rol Maserati 4CLT-48 [1604] - s/c 4
#28 Officine Alfieri Maserati (see note 18)
Did not arrive
DNA Reg Parnell Maserati 4CLT-48 [1596] - s/c 4
#36 Scuderia Ambrosiana (see note 19)
Did not arrive
DNA Rudi Fischer (4.5 F1) 1.1-litre SVA - Fiat s/c 4
#38 Rudolf Fischer (see note 20)
Did not arrive

All cars are 1.5-litre s/c F1 or 4.5-litre F1 unless noted.

Qualifying
1 Juan Manuel Fangio (4.5 F1) 1.5-litre Alfa Romeo 158 - Alfa Romeo s/c 8 2m 42.1s
2 Giuseppe Farina (4.5 F1) 1.5-litre Alfa Romeo 158 - Alfa Romeo s/c 8 2m 42.8s
3 Luigi Fagioli (4.5 F1) 1.5-litre Alfa Romeo 158 - Alfa Romeo s/c 8 2m 45.2s
4 Luigi Villoresi (4.5 F1) 1.5-litre Ferrari 125 - Ferrari s/c V12 2m 46.1s
5 Alberto Ascari (4.5 F1) 1.5-litre Ferrari 125 - Ferrari s/c V12 2m 46.8s
6 Philippe Étancelin (4.5 F1) 4.5-litre Talbot T26C [110 008] - Talbot 6 2m 51.1s
7 Yves Giraud-Cabantous (4.5 F1) 4.5-litre Talbot T26C-DA [110 052] - Talbot 6 2m 52.7s
8 "B Bira" (4.5 F1) 1.5-litre Maserati 4CLT-48 [1607] - Maserati s/c 4 2m 53.2s
9 Eugène Martin (4.5 F1) 4.5-litre Talbot T26C-DA [110 053] - Talbot 6 2m 53.7s
10 Louis Rosier (4.5 F1) 4.5-litre Talbot T26C-DA [110 051] - Talbot 6 2m 54.0s
11 Emmanuel de Graffenried (4.5 F1) 1.5-litre Maserati 4CLT-48 [1601] - Maserati s/c 4 2m 54.2s
12 Felice Bonetto (4.5 F1) 1.5-litre Maserati 4CLT-48 [1611] - Speluzzi s/c 4 2m 54.6s
13 Raymond Sommer (F2) 2-litre Ferrari 166 F2 [GP1-49] - Ferrari V12 2m 54.6s
14 Johnny Claes (4.5 F1) 4.5-litre Talbot T26C [110 011] - Talbot 6 2m 59.0s
15 Nello Pagani (4.5 F1) 1.5-litre Maserati 4CLT-48 - Maserati s/c 4 3m 06.9s
16 Louis Chiron (4.5 F1) 1.5-litre Maserati 4CLT-48 [1606] - Maserati s/c 4 3m 06.9s
17 Toni Branca (4.5 F1) 1.5-litre Maserati 4CL [1582] - Maserati s/c 4 3m 10.0s
18 Harry Schell (4.5 F1) 4.5-litre Talbot T26C [110 001] - Talbot 6 3m 11.5s

Notes on the cars:

  1. Talbot T26C-DA [110 051] (Louis Rosier): Originally a works car Rosier in 1950 and then for Fangio in Argentina that December. Raced by Grignard 1951-56 (mainly in hillclimbs), then possibly in in Clères Museum before appearing in UK historic racing with Bob Roberts 1970-71. Via two other UK owners until bought by Jim Hull (US) in 1988. Retained 1991.
  2. Maserati 4CLT-48 [1607] ("B Bira"): To Enrico Platé for 1949 (dated 14 Nov 1949 in Maserati records) and raced by Bira up to Geneva 1950. Car fitted with a 4450cc OSCA V12 engine for Bira for the 1951 season. The OSCA was taken to Australia in 1955 by Bira as a spare car to his 250F and sold there to Alf Harvey who raced it from 1955 to 1959. The car then went to the UK for historic racing and was bought by Tom Wheatcroft in 1971. Subsequently in the Donington Museum.
  3. Maserati 4CLT-48 [1611] (Felice Bonetto): Listed in Maserati records as going to Officine A. Maserati 7 Mar 1950 and then Scuderia Milan. Used by Milan for second Milan (Speluzzi)-engined 4CLT and raced in 1950 (for Bonetto at Monza and Godia at Barcelona) and 1951 (Marimon at Reims and Landi at Albi). Subsequent history unknown but one of the Milan-Maseratis is owned by Doreen Fielding in Scotland.
  4. Maserati 4CLT-48 [1601] (Emmanuel de Graffenried): To Enrico Platé for 1949 (dated 7 Mar 1949 in Maserati records) and driven by Emmanuel de Graffenried. Continued as de Graffenried's well-used car through 1950 and 1951. Probably one of two cars extensively rebuilt as Plate-Maseratis for 1952. Probably raced by Ottorino Volonterio in F2 in 1953. Sold with the sister car (probably 1598) by de Graffenried to 20th Century Fox for film work then sold again via Tom Carstens (Tacoma, WA). Subsequent history unknown.
  5. Maserati 4CLT-48 (Nello Pagani): The third AC Argentina car for 1950, entered by Scuderia Achille Varzi and driven by Pian & Pagani, has not yet been identified. Photographic evidence shows that the cars driven by Pagani at Albi, Pian at Monaco and Pagani at Bremgarten (all in 1950) appear to be the same and are not the ACA's regular cars from 1949, chassis 1599 and 1600.
  6. Talbot T26C [110 001] (Harry Schell): Talbot-Lago T26C chassis '110 001' was raced by Louis Rosier from 1948 to 1950 and then under the Ecurie Rosier banner by Pozzi in 1950; by Henri Louveau and Louis Chiron in 1951; and by Giraud-Cabantous, Chaboud and Mairesse in 1952. It was acquired by the Musée Henri Malatre at Rochetaillé, France, in 1956 and was still on display in 1990.
  7. Maserati 4CLT-48 [1606] (Louis Chiron): Shown in Maserati records as going to Louis Chiron in Monte Carlo 21 Sep 1949. Raced by Chiron through 1950 then to Toni Branca for 1951 and then de Walckiers (who entered Steve Watson and Pilette) for 1952. Reappeared Italy 1960s then via chain of Italian, Belgian, Swiss, German and French owners to 1998. Owned by Bernie Ecclestone from 1998.
  8. Talbot T26C [110 011] (Johnny Claes): Talbot-Lago T26C chassis '110 011' was Johnny Claes car in 1948-50 and then sold to Duncan Hamilton (and Fotheringham-Parker) and raced 1951-53. Stored in France until 1955 when Hamilton sold it to Allan Freeman in New Zealand who raced it through to 1961. It was bought by Joe Hepworth in 1963 and returned to England; then via other UK and French owners until sold to Bernie Ecclestone 1996. Retained 2002.
  9. Maserati 4CL [1582] (Toni Branca): Delivered 31 July 1946 to Guido Barbieri from Reggio Emilia, and raced in the 1946 Turin and Milan GPs. It is possible that the chassis was then used by Barbieri in his 1.5 litre Maserati 6C Sports Special, which first appeared in October 1946. The car reappeared in normal 4CL form in 1949 in the hands of Swiss Anton Branca, who raced it throughout 1949 and 1950. The car then passed through a variety of Swiss owners’ hands, at one stage fitted with a Ford V8 engine, before being campaigned in historic racing by Dan Margulies for more than 20 years, and being owned most recently by Klaus Edel and then Oliver Maierhofer. The car was for sale in early 2007.
  10. Talbot T26C [110 008] (Philippe Étancelin): Talbot-Lago T26C chassis '110 008' was Philippe Etancelin's car in 1948 and then passed to Jean Achard November 1950. Achard moved to Brazil, taking the car, and sold it there to Pinheiro Pires who raced it in Brazil from 1951 to 1954. Remains to UK via Colin Crabbe in the 1980s and then via other UK owners to Tony Bianchi c1999. Has been raced in historics up to 2005.
  11. Talbot T26C-DA [110 053] (Eugène Martin): Built in 1950 using parts from '110 003' and raced for the works by Martin, Chaboud and Giraud-Cabantous in 1950 then by Rosier as a private entry in 1951. Driven by Trintignant for Ecurie Rosier in 1952, then Giraud-Cabantous 1952-53. Owned by Marceau Hauret 1955 and Houdayer (Paris) 1981. Raced from 1987-2000 by François d'Huart (Belgium) as '100105'.
  12. Ferrari 125 (Luigi Villoresi): At the 1950 Grosser Preis der Schweiz, Villoresi was allocated a new experimental car featuring a Tipo 125 chassis but with the De Dion rear suspension of the 1950 Tipo 166 F2 car. This car has been referred to as either 125-C-03 or 125-C-04 but no definitive source is known. This may be the car that Villoresi drove - and crashed badly - at Geneva in July 1950, which had a 275 engine and De Dion rear suspension. At the end of 1950, Michael Muller's research indicates that this car was renumbered 0102 and used as an experimental Tipo 212 car.
  13. Ferrari 125 (Alberto Ascari): Two new two-stage supercharged, long-wheelbase Tipo 125s were built for the 1949 Italian GP with the internal designation 'GP49'. These were numbered either 125-C-00 and 125-C-01 or 125-C-01 and 125-C-02 and it is unclear which car Ascari drove. However, it was normal practice that he would have kept the same car thereafter. At Spa in 1950, Ascari's car was fitted with a Tipo 275 (3.3-litre) sports car Lampredi engine. It is not clear whether Ascari's car was even present at the French GP. One of these two 'GP49' cars became the Thin Wall Special while the other was renumbered 0114 and sold to Peter Whitehead for 1951.
  14. Talbot T26C-DA [110 052] (Yves Giraud-Cabantous): Built in 1950 using parts from '110 012' and raced for the works by Giraud-Cabantous, Sommer and, in Argentina, Gonzalez. To Claes for 1951 and then Ecurie Belgique (Claes and Pilette) 1952. Some differences of opinion over its ownership in the 1950s but then via UK and German owners until 1987. Next seen with Peter Mullin (USA) in 2001. Raced by Mullin at 2007 Monterey Historics.
  15. Talbot T26C [110 001] (Louis Rosier): Talbot-Lago T26C chassis '110 001' was raced by Louis Rosier from 1948 to 1950 and then under the Ecurie Rosier banner by Pozzi in 1950; by Henri Louveau and Louis Chiron in 1951; and by Giraud-Cabantous, Chaboud and Mairesse in 1952. It was acquired by the Musée Henri Malatre at Rochetaillé, France, in 1956 and was still on display in 1990.
  16. Maserati 4CLT-48 [1600] (José Froilán Gonzalez): Built in 1949 for Automovil Club Argentina and raced by under the ACA's "Scuderia Achille Varzi" banner Malusardi and Benedicto Campos. Raced in 1950 by Jose Froilan Gonzalez and then 1950-52 by other ACA drivers in South America. Reportedly to Venezuela then via US, Japanese and further US owners to 1996. Owned by Jean-Louis Duret from 1996. Retained 2000.
  17. Ferrari 125 [10C] (Peter Whitehead): Peter Whitehead bought 10C new for 1949 and used it through 1949 and 1950 before buying a newer ex-works 125. This car was raced by Dobson in 1951 and later sold to David Murray. Whitehead later bought a 1949/50 LWB Tipo 125 renumbered 0114; it is this latter car that spent many years in the Donington Collection.
  18. Maserati 4CLT-48 [1604] (Franco Rol): Maserati records state that this car went to Franco Rol 8 Sep 1949. Raced by Rol through 1950 until Rol's crash at Pedralbes 29 Oct 1950. Then raced by Adolfo Macchieraldo 1952-54. To USA, where Marguerite Morgan entered 1957 Indianapolis 500 but driver Danny Kladis failed to qualify. Reappeared in the US in 1965 then via a chain of US, UK, Australian, South African and German owners up to 2002. Owned by Wolf-Dieter Baumann from 2002. Raced by Thomas Steinke 2007 Goodwood Revival but possibly still owned by Baumann.
  19. Maserati 4CLT-48 [1596] (Reg Parnell): Maserati records list this as Reg Parnell's car dated 14 Sep 1948. Raced by Parnell from 1949 to 1951, under the Scuderia Ambrosiana banner in 1950 and 1951, also by Hampshire in 1951. Sold or leased to Bobby Baird mid-1951 and then sometime after 1952 sold to Count Johnny Lurani. Lurani sold it in 1955 to Pat Hoare in New Zealand where it raced until the mid-1960s and then spent many years in the Queenstown Motor Museum. It was sold in 1982 and returned to Europe in 1989. Sold at auction a number of times in the late 1980s and 1990s. Owned by Max Lustenberger (Switzerland) from 1999. Retained 2004.
  20. SVA (Rudi Fischer): The SVA was designed by Giovanni Savonuzzi and built by Società Valdostana Automotori. Two versions were announced, a 1.1-litre version with or without supercharger and a 820cc version intended for American midget racing. According to entry lists and reports on testing, Fischer used the 1.1-litre supercharged version at Ospedaletti.

Sources

The identification of individual cars in these results is based on the material presented elsewhere in this site and may in some cases contradict the organisers' orginal results.

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